Hi - I am currently using the pro version on trial. A couple of observations. Looking at the bottom of the diary page, would it be possible to add a button at each side of the monthly list which would automatically load the previous month or next month. Also and this maybe just me, but when you click on the up arrow at the end of the monthly list I would expect that to take me to the next month not the previous and obviously the down arrow to go to the previous month. I previously mentioned recurring and multiple day events to which you kindly suggested scheduler & templates as a part solution. I feel that iDailyDiary would really benefit by including recurring & multiple day events. I for example would use recurring to enter my (albeit extremely odd)work pattern once which then repeats every 13 days. If I wanted to know what shift I was on a particular date 6 months ahead simply select the date and see! Also if I schedule an appointment with a pop up reminder, I really do want to view and edit it from my diary program Multiple day events would save a lot of CNTRL C & V! As I travel abroad quite a bit I frequently have to block off several days showing where I am and contact details etc. The ability to post an entry to a date range would be fab. I intend buying iDailyDiary as I think it is a great product that just needs a few tweaks and I look forward to seeing the changes that will be happening as discussed on this forum.
regards
Alan
iDailyDiary pro version - observations -
Moderator: Support
Hi Alan,
Thanks for the suggestions, for some of them we already have plans to include those type of features, particularly expanding templates and the facility to apply to a range of dates in one go.
Interesting point about the up and down arrows for the calendar bar. No one has mentioned it before... but I think you could be right.
The original thinking behind it was that the calendar bar is sort of like one line of an entire year planner, by clicking the up and down arrows you are effectively moving up and down the year planner to view the other months. In that sense, January would be at the top, and you'd click the down arrow to move down through the other months on the year planner. However. I see your point, because numerically speaking January is number 1 and December is number 12, so thinking about it that way you would click the up arrow to go from January to December.
What does everyone else think? We can easily change the buttons around.
Thanks for the suggestions, for some of them we already have plans to include those type of features, particularly expanding templates and the facility to apply to a range of dates in one go.
Interesting point about the up and down arrows for the calendar bar. No one has mentioned it before... but I think you could be right.
The original thinking behind it was that the calendar bar is sort of like one line of an entire year planner, by clicking the up and down arrows you are effectively moving up and down the year planner to view the other months. In that sense, January would be at the top, and you'd click the down arrow to move down through the other months on the year planner. However. I see your point, because numerically speaking January is number 1 and December is number 12, so thinking about it that way you would click the up arrow to go from January to December.
What does everyone else think? We can easily change the buttons around.
Splinterware Support
I think Alan was right, "it is just him". The arrows are fine as they are. Your original thinking seems logical to me. I think most of us read a list from the top down. The bottom of the list is the "end" of the list, as December is the "end" of the year. The "up" button takes you to the "top" of the list....January.
If you want to go to the top of a page in Windows, using the mouse, you'd click the top/up scroll botton.
IDD--2 Alan--0. (no offence Alan)
I'd like to see more opinions, where is everybody?
sw642
If you want to go to the top of a page in Windows, using the mouse, you'd click the top/up scroll botton.
IDD--2 Alan--0. (no offence Alan)
I'd like to see more opinions, where is everybody?
sw642
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Alan H
Up down arrows
No offence taken SW and I must admit when you think of an annual planner with January at the top and December at the bottom it is completely logical to click up and down for the current changes however, at the risk of sounding pedantic, a list is "usually" organised or prioritised in some order and the normal procedure is to count up. We do not for example start at floor 20 on a block of high rise flats and count "UP" to level 1. Similarly you would not count UP to month 1 but down - however I do take your point and I am certainly happy to continue using iDD as is.
regards
Alan
PS does supports quote of - "Interesting point about the up and down arrows for the calendar bar. No one has mentioned it before... but I think you could be right. " - not constitute at least 2-1?
regards
Alan
PS does supports quote of - "Interesting point about the up and down arrows for the calendar bar. No one has mentioned it before... but I think you could be right. " - not constitute at least 2-1?
Hi Alan,
I concede…your point is well taken. First of all, I’d like to know where you live. I suspect it’s not in the USA.
Some of us drive on the left side of the road, while others drive on the right. Some of us eat with the fork in the right hand, while others use the left, both socially acceptable, depending on our location. Some measure in metric and some don’t. Some lists read UP, while other read DOWN.
I think you can see where this is going. When I responded, I didn’t take into consideration that perhaps you didn’t live in Boise, Idaho. All things considered, perhaps we’re both right, perhaps there is no “right” way, only different. Is there any real “logic” here? Hmmmm….
You are also right…it is 2-1. Where the hell is everybody?
Nice talking to you Alan. Thanks for causing me to re-evaluate my thinking. I guess now it’s up to Splinterware to figure it out.
OK support…seems we have a little problem here. What’s the solution?
sw642
I concede…your point is well taken. First of all, I’d like to know where you live. I suspect it’s not in the USA.
Some of us drive on the left side of the road, while others drive on the right. Some of us eat with the fork in the right hand, while others use the left, both socially acceptable, depending on our location. Some measure in metric and some don’t. Some lists read UP, while other read DOWN.
I think you can see where this is going. When I responded, I didn’t take into consideration that perhaps you didn’t live in Boise, Idaho. All things considered, perhaps we’re both right, perhaps there is no “right” way, only different. Is there any real “logic” here? Hmmmm….
You are also right…it is 2-1. Where the hell is everybody?
Nice talking to you Alan. Thanks for causing me to re-evaluate my thinking. I guess now it’s up to Splinterware to figure it out.
OK support…seems we have a little problem here. What’s the solution?
sw642
Congratulations support…a solution to make everyone happy. I can see Alan’s point, but I just can’t see my list going DOWN from December to January. Recalling my first post…“keep it simple” isn’t possible in the Pro version. Distributing this program world wide, is going to keep you guys busy just trying to keep up with every ones suggestions. Be prepared to earn your money. Keep up the good work.
sw642
sw642
Hi again…
This is not directly related to the current thread, with regard to the calendar arrows. It relates to the way the date is displayed.
Alan and I disagreed about the way we saw our list, and the calendar arrow function. I believe we were both right, with different views. Now I’m having a little problem with the date displays, and the way I’m accustomed to seeing it.
When I see 04/05/04, it’s April 5th…not May 4th. I made changes in preferences (thanks for that option), but ran a search today for a word in the entire Diary. The results were presented with linked dates. The dates were not as I have them displayed on the page. It’s not difficult to figure out the correct date when it’s 16/04/04…but other dates, like the one above make it a little confusing at times.
A change I’d like to see is having the date presented the same globally…if that’s possible for you to do.
Thanks again, and keep up the good work.
sw642
This is not directly related to the current thread, with regard to the calendar arrows. It relates to the way the date is displayed.
Alan and I disagreed about the way we saw our list, and the calendar arrow function. I believe we were both right, with different views. Now I’m having a little problem with the date displays, and the way I’m accustomed to seeing it.
When I see 04/05/04, it’s April 5th…not May 4th. I made changes in preferences (thanks for that option), but ran a search today for a word in the entire Diary. The results were presented with linked dates. The dates were not as I have them displayed on the page. It’s not difficult to figure out the correct date when it’s 16/04/04…but other dates, like the one above make it a little confusing at times.
A change I’d like to see is having the date presented the same globally…if that’s possible for you to do.
Thanks again, and keep up the good work.
sw642
(Date Representation....)
Please also bear in mind that your global audience has different expectations - I'm from the UK so my cultural norm would be (I think) dd/mm/yy. I put "I think" in brackets because as someone working for a multi-national I see this confusion every day and so have made a personal choice of date representation of yyyy mmm dd (2004 Apr 04). This follows logic (most significant data first) and also avoids any ambiguity by writing the month in a form which differentiates it from the day number.
Not that I expect anyone else necessarily to follow my logic, let alone write their dates this way. What I'm really saying is that if you simply consistently follow the operating system date display preferences everywhere within iDailyDiary, wont you please everyone? Me included?
Just my two pence. - Mike -
Not that I expect anyone else necessarily to follow my logic, let alone write their dates this way. What I'm really saying is that if you simply consistently follow the operating system date display preferences everywhere within iDailyDiary, wont you please everyone? Me included?
Just my two pence. - Mike -
Thanks Mike,
The default in iDailyDiary is to follow the operating system settings for 'Short Date Format'. However within iDailyDiary we had been asked many times to make the 'Date and Time Stamp' feature more configurable, hence the option in 'Preferences'.
As SW pointed out, the date format returned in the search results window is not consistent with the operating system setting or the date/time stamp setting.
So I suppose the question is, should the date format used in the search window match the iDailyDiary Preferences or the Operating System? It's a tough one...
The default in iDailyDiary is to follow the operating system settings for 'Short Date Format'. However within iDailyDiary we had been asked many times to make the 'Date and Time Stamp' feature more configurable, hence the option in 'Preferences'.
As SW pointed out, the date format returned in the search results window is not consistent with the operating system setting or the date/time stamp setting.
So I suppose the question is, should the date format used in the search window match the iDailyDiary Preferences or the Operating System? It's a tough one...
Splinterware Support
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Alan H
You're not alone Alan!
Here 'we' are sw642! 
I agree with Alan, and yes I am in the US. I really don't think that the arrows are intuitive as they are. We are NOT scrolling a page but rather selecting between a range of dates.
An "up" arrow, placed next to an item has always represented "+" and vice-versa for the down arrow. A good case in point is the UNIVERSAL use of a 4 quadrant graph. Traveling UPward along the Y-axis always results in more positive values and traveling DOWNward, more negative values.
I think that everyone has made valid arguments for their case however and I am pleased to see that it will be an option. That's what 'user friendly' is all about - choices.
I’m joining the party late, but I’ve been contributing via email. My point is moot since it will be an option but...Also and this maybe just me, but when you click on the up arrow at the end of the monthly list I would expect that to take me to the next month not the previous and obviously the down arrow to go to the previous month.
I agree with Alan, and yes I am in the US. I really don't think that the arrows are intuitive as they are. We are NOT scrolling a page but rather selecting between a range of dates.
An "up" arrow, placed next to an item has always represented "+" and vice-versa for the down arrow. A good case in point is the UNIVERSAL use of a 4 quadrant graph. Traveling UPward along the Y-axis always results in more positive values and traveling DOWNward, more negative values.
I think that everyone has made valid arguments for their case however and I am pleased to see that it will be an option. That's what 'user friendly' is all about - choices.